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okay so Colin songs

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right welcome we're going to tell us

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about the uh starting a bit more about

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my latest client Saunders and uh like I

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say good love behind me from the last

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time I was here

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briefly I spent a lot of time in the

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aircraft industry working for sale in

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Sweden and for Mrs Smith in Germany I've

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also spent a bit of time working for

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Chevron in the North Sea so plan on

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quite a few helicopters quite a lot of

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Aviation experiments if you like

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now six months ago we had an experience

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we've never had one before and there was

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four members of the family

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that it happened to Victoria was with me

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tonight her mother and her grandmother

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there was we've been out for a family

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meal

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to a little village called Pelton

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we're coming back along the the past we

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just turned on to the bus from the

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country road

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and at this point we started to see some

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flashing lights down in front of us and

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they're the most amazing lights we've

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ever seen a really brilliant red lights

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and there was some white mixed in with

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it and we all started talking about

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these lights how low they were now

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bright and we drove towards them and it

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it's seen nearly a few seconds but I've

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been back and measured the distance

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actually half a mile so it must have

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taken the best part 50 or 60 seconds to

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drive to the lights at this point would

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be 100 100 feet not a great deal more

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beneath the flashing lights which are

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just adjacent to the side of the road

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and at this point is is when the object

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materialized

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just to show you the location

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these all go in um in the sequence so

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basically with that for the first

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this is the the actual fast the old

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cross way just to the top here we've got

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the A5 The Junction with the high cross

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we were actually coming along this way

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coming back from Pelton from a family

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meal we turned on to the Foss at this

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point

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and it was around just as we turned onto

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the past we've seen the lights which

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we're just down here that foxon's corner

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and we see in the lights of the whole of

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this distance

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during the whole of the

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experience there was no other traffic

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around it was most unusual

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there was people who were following us

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actually but they didn't catch us up

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until the actual incident had finished

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as we turned on to the the fast if we

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turn over this is the sort of sight we

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were greeting with these most brilliant

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pulsating

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red lights

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and this is all all that we could see

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really from the car was the red lights

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at this point we couldn't see any

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particular

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crap it was only when we came underneath

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the lights for the first sort of object

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came into view here we have like a

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diamond shape a metallic diamond shape

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starting to appear around the lights

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Curious Thing to notice is that there

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was one light and I could see that was

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offset from the other lights now I don't

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know why that would be but all of these

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lights are really poor Satan and being

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light towards you it was the most

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amazing thing to see it was a completely

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cloudless night clear clear sky

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and then the next most amazing thing

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happened on the next page it tilted on

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the taxis

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and gave me a real good clear look of

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the circus the hole in the surface the

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dark gray that you can see it was

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actually it looked like it was organic

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like it was alive that was moving the

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best way to describe it is like at night

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time when you see Moonlight shining onto

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a lake you've got a slight breeze and

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there's a ripple on the lake and you can

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see the White and the dark it was like

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that but all of these silver lines that

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have been shown we raise off the surface

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in actual 3D that came off the surface

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ran up the body turned it 90 degrees and

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back down on themselves again

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most amazing

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site that I'd ever seen

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we've reported this to to animal we've

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never been involved with the UFO before

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honest with our first experience

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and the last picture is a copy of

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Victoria's drawing that she presented of

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the object

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now I kept thinking thinking about the

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particular experience and I I couldn't

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understand why

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the um

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it was a diamond shape at the bottom I'd

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started to research I looked into a few

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brochures at home I would send me there

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was one on the continuous story of

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triangles which showed a sighting in

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Belgium the bottom of the Belgium craft

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had also got these lines coming off in

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relief so I'm assuming the sustained

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type of crack we've seen the same

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version

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the same model if you like that

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particular

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vehicle whatever whatever the vehicle is

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next thing that happened my wife came

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home with this this book for one of our

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one of Victoria's fans killed yourself

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the model

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now there's a good idea I wanted to make

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myself

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a model and have a look at it

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I printed up some cards on on the

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computer at home using the Belgium image

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for the bottom and my own side into the

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touch and the rear

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and from that I came up with what would

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call them the mark one version

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this is the first one that we built the

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first type of model now what I found

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when I was looking at this now I've got

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a few of these done actually which we

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built today

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so I'll pass these out as well to have a

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now what you find is

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if you look at the back of the craft and

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tilt the nose slightly there and you get

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the silhouette of the diamond

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and then the red light at the front of

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the craft comes into view

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as being the odd spurious light that was

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offset

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on the other lights and so what we're

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looking at with the nose tilted down is

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what now what I believe that would be

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the light underneath on the front

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so the actual view we're looking at

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there is the underneath of The Craft

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and that view there is actually two

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views in one

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that shows the bottom of the craft but

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also shows The Craft

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tilting on these axis so that's a bit

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misleading but if you look at the report

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in the of an ovni magazine for my

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original drawings I do actually show two

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views in one it almost seemed like it

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happened at the same time

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what I did from there I built a Mark II

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version of the model which is a wooden

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Crane and I finally

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build a Mark III version which I bought

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along with me tonight

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this one we we built a wooden frame

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inside and I've actually put some

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flashing lights into this one

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and what I've also learned from this

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looking at the last picture

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because the craft was actually tilted at

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30 degrees

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in the air as we drove underneath it

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if you look at the craft from certain

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angles

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it appears though the lights on

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Victoria's drawn would be the lights on

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the back and these two underneath so I

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believe Victoria has seen the craft

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initially from underneath and seen the

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whole Road lights plus the one at the

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I didn't actually see the crack till I

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was underneath it and I've seen the

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front and the wind and seen it tilt up

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my wife who was driving only seeing the

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three lights underneath

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my mother-in-law didn't want to come

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tonight seen all those lights plus the

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craft

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but she didn't emit it for two weeks

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but if you guys pass that around and so

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if you Tilt The Craft away because this

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thing obviously has got a lot of pitch

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and roll and urine trim and everything

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about it it's very maneuverable

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if you look at all of the lights if you

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do that I mean it just looks silly

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really fantastic is it possible to turn

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can you just hold that up again and move

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it around in space with the lights off

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okay there we can see the underneath

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see the spurious life so we can see

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Victoria's view from a different angle

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showing all the lights along the back

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plus the one I put my wife only seen the

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ones coming underneath I assumed that

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she was driving under to look down but

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like so these these things have got

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great maneuverability and if you spin

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them around

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obviously All of the Lights interact

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with each other it becomes quite

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confusing as to what shape you're

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actually looking at

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I think that's part of the phenomenon

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why different people see different

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things of the same site and at the same

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I think it may be something to do with

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these angles of rotation and then the

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general strange laser effect of all the

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things you've got the flashing about

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right no no these are the only LEDs I

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can actually get hold of them the

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frequency is

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yeah there was they were lit all the

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time and that none of the lights

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actually went out they were more

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pulsating rather than flashing so they

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were all pulsating at the same time so

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it was a quite a brilliant laser show

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and with all the turning and obviously

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it typically those taxis when it decided

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to disappear we've seen it come to rear

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and then it just disappeared basically

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obviously from underneath it would have

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looked more like that which is like the

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building so I can when you say just when

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what happened was we materialized as we

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drove underneath and we were looking at

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it and we said stop stop let's get out

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the car and my wife drove the car

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slightly further forward to reverse it

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into a Gateway which was cool enough

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where the thing was hovering

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as we pulled paws like there was a large

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head which obscurled our view

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and by the time we reversed and jumped

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out it just disappeared we did see a

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strange configuration of flashing lights

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in the distance a long long way away

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maybe 10 or 20 miles which we assumed at

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the time was the same craft that

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traveled a great distance

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but we have been back to the site many

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times and I've been back at night it is

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fair to say it's a very busy air where

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there's lots of traffic flying around

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there every sort of five ten minutes

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there's an aircraft passing by so maybe

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the disappearing one could have been a

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normal aircraft I don't know I don't

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think so they've got a strange shape to

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it it's certainly because it's

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triangular

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there was no noise over the noise of the

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fiesta man he wants who's a little bit

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wacky but certainly there was no angular

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noise there was no smells

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it was reasonably big I say size of a

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and and Tennis Harris were mid you know

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semi-detached house it wasn't the size

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of a football pitch

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but it felt most of the vision of you as

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we looked upon it another interesting

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thing this Edge I mean the detail was

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amazing to see I've got this light

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colored downside here

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the darker look on the top and from the

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bottom was actually rolled over like a

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piece of pastry

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like it's all been sympathetically

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rolled together there were no rivets or

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not some bolts okay

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it was the most peculative experience I

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would say I think it was quite a

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friendly experience if you've never felt

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any sweat or any fear and one of the

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things to bear in mind that was four of

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us as well it didn't jump out on just

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one of us from the blue and scared wits

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out of us it showed us the light it was

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almost like they were fishing with bacon

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say no here we are going to have a look

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at us and we looked in for quite a while

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because we're available and then we've

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seen him materializing the whole event

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it was quite exciting

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certainly wasn't fine

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so did you feel calm yeah very much

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we're very excited yes we are wishing to

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get out of the car and to jump on board

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but Victoria was slightly different I

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think she was a bit scared

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basically that's the sequence of events

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of what happened on the night

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you say that you're about 100 feet tall

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sorry about 100 feet above the car yes

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it was yes yes at that time because we

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just slowed to a stop and then decided

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to move forward to reverse

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and we couldn't hear any noise over the

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noise of the engine unfortunately

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it will help it's not doing that

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Victoria had some strange bubbling on

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the rears but that disappeared after a

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while we didn't know what that was

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I've got two questions

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warnings what's the news

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[Music]

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that's taken from the Belgium site and

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that's nothing I actually seen on the

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night I didn't see any blue light at all

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if you look in them I don't know as a

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continuous story

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we've taken the details of the bottom

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that's fictitious as far as we're

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concerned from what we've seen but it's

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obviously somebody else insighting which

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I assume was coincide with the top view

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that we've seen second question is

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um

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how much traffic was on the road and how

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many other people

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no no it was the strangest thing that

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when when the insulin occurred there was

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no traffic as soon as the incident

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stopped and the thing had gone the

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traffic started up again in both